40 years on

no doubt one of the most famous pictures in Israeli history. You can see the mortals next to the immortals. The 6 day war was said to be one of Israel's finest moments. I have read that long term we gained nothing from this war but ironically from the yom kippur war we did gain long term...... I am not convinced....for starters the Israeli economy boomed after that war and people walked with their heads in the air. Israel was put on the world map as a nation of winners and winners in style.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

Here these haradim live in Israel-see previous article!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Traditional Jews Are Not ZionistsAlthough there are those who refuse to accept the teachings of our Rabbis and will continue to support the Zionist state, there are also many who are totally unaware of the history of Zionism and its contradiction to the beliefs of Torah-True Jews.
Words of the Rabbis Opposing Zionism - Today's Quote
Lubavitcher Rebbe, Grand Rabbi Sholem Dov Ber Schneersohn ZT"L
Lubavitcher Rebbe, Grand Rabbi Sholem Dov Ber Schneersohn ZT"L
"Regarding your question about the Zionists, allow me to respond briefly. Those who assist the Zionists will pay at the Day of Judgment, because they are causing the masses to sin. Therefore, whoever is on the side of G-d and his Torah shall not join with evildoers and not become attached to them. On the contrary, they should oppose them as much as possible."
Your friend in truth, Shalom Dov Ber from LubavitchHe also said:"The Zionists were more clever than the others, since they exchanged nationalism for the Torah and commandments, as Mandelstam wrote publicly, that a Jew doesn't have to be someone who keeps the commandments , but rather is a Zionist, even if he does not wear phylacteries and does not keep the Sabbath...."

just a minute

just a minute was a BBC programme but it seems apropriate that from time to time I should take a minute to think abot life within Israel.
My brother sent me a news item asking how Israel is coping with the haradim. When the law was passed exempting them from army service they were very few in numbers. Today according to the artical they represent 10% of potential enlisting jews. As their birthrate is 4 times the average birthrate........The article also touches on the economic fact that few work in this community and that they are a social and economic burden to our society.
The complexity of Israeli society once again raises its head. I would even go as far as to say that the average Israeli jew understands this group of people less than than he does the druse or muslim way of life.
Here in the golan it is hard to put this statistic into reality. The religious population is high and also highly motivated. He believes as Israel as a special land that we have to work to keep and improve. Within this schedule he finds time for his religious commitments. Most of the religious people I know in this are believe in live and let live.
The first measurement of a person for me is how he conducts himself within society. If he wants to help his fellow man if his outlook is positive what difference does it make to me what his religion, nationality or colour are. I have perhaps ran away from the original problem because it is not clear to me how one should react to this population.
It is ironic but one of the the social problems is the same as kibbutzim once (and still to a lesser extent) had. They cover for and hide the less desirables among themselves. Thus for example it is very difficult for a woman to come out in the open and say her husband is beating her.
I do not know how I am supposed to react to this society within a society who appear to take and not give but I will make specific an earlier generalisation. I do not understand how they think, their way of life or anything about them. In this case do I have a right to decide their fate........?

Complexity of Israel

Police officer tries to stop illegal Wakf Temple Mount digging
A Druze police officer lay down in a trench that was being dug illegally by the Wakf on the Temple Mount in an attempt to stop the digging today. His Jewish chief came over and told him to 'calm down.' I wish I were making this up. I'm not.
Gideon Charlap, a top Jerusalem architect and Temple Mount expert, told Arutz-7 what he saw when he visited the Temple Mount on Tuesday: "The Arabs there are digging a deep north-to-south trench, up to a meter [1.1 yards] deep. It is being dug in the area that served during Holy Temple times as the Ezrat Nashim [the area known as the Women's Courtyard, though it was not reserved only for women -ed.]. The trench passes through three east-to-west walls, according to my calculations - walls that probably served as separations for the Temple's offices and the like. This means that the destruction is tremendous...""At one point during the digging," Charlap continued, "a policeman - apparently a Druze - tried to stop the work from going on, and actually entered the cabin of the tractor. A struggle ensued, and when the Arabs finally pushed him out, he actually stood in the trench and physically blocked the rest of the work!"Charlap said that at that point, the chief officer of the Temple Mount police station, Shai Alali, arrived on the scene. "But instead of stopping the lawbreakers," Charlap related with incredulity, "he tried to 'calm down' the policeman!"Charlap said he was unable to see how the story developed from there, "because our allotted time was over." Jews are permitted onto the site - Judaism's most sacred anywhere in the world - only four or fewer hours a day.Police Chief Shai Alali was unavailable for comment. Police spokesmen say they will look into the assault and illegal digging.The digging is taking place just east of the Dome of the Rock.Our dhimmi government has turned our police force into a bunch of dhimmis. To see video of a similar trench, go here.
posted by Carl in Jerusalem @ 4:42 PM

I have posted this to show people how complicated Israeli society is. I am not making a political statement but a social one. Try explainig the arabs that vote Likud (I have a friend who proudly shows everyone his party membership card) or even Shas. Israel is a very complicated piece of knitting and those who see it as jews vs arabs simply do not understand

where I work-havat bakfar (farmin the village)

some of the dishes I make. The restaurant is on mushav ramot,20 minutes drive from my home in qasrin. If u like good food it is worth coming to. The stakes are aged as they should be and we do not compromise on the quality of meat we buy. I have no doubt our stakes are amongst the best in the country. if u like your meat this is the place to come. We are not kosher and thus we are opened on Saturday's